Brain vs Body? How Emotions Shape Pain – With Dr. Mark Lumley
Most chronic pain care ignores one of the most powerful drivers of symptoms: our emotions. In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Mark Lumley, a leading researcher in Emotional Awareness and Expression Therapy (EAET), to explore how unprocessed emotions, trauma, and life stressors can directly influence pain — and what to do about it. We break down: -The differences and overlaps between EAET and Pain Reprocessing Therapy (PRT) -How to help patients shift from body-focused to brain-focused vie...
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Mark Kargela
Host / Clinician / Faculty / Father / Husband
Mark Kargela is a physical therapist, educator, and founder of Modern Pain Care. With over two decades of clinical experience, Mark brings a refreshing, human-first approach to pain care—one that ditches the fix-it model and empowers both patients and clinicians to engage with complexity, uncertainty, and meaningful change. This podcast is where clinical skill meets real-life context, challenging outdated norms and offering conversations that help you grow your practice, your mindset, and your impact.